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Important CT WL Ruleset Changelog

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  1. adagify

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    The purpose of this thread is to log every change made to CT WL's ruleset, so everyone can clearly see what has been updated.

    It was also made in order to comply with this rule:
    The Ruleset: http://forums.mkboards.com/threads/16760/
     
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    3 tracks have been banned:

    - Dryland Hills : Set item box (triple shroom box directly in the line of the shortcut).
    - Haunted Woods : Multiple set item boxes (mega mushroom, thunder cloud, and triple shrooms).
    - N64 Wario Stadium : Has a ramp that you cannot make while being shrunken by a shock or a thunder cloud.

    1 track has been unbanned:

    - Comet Starway : The reason it was banned is due to it causing players to freeze. The council has deemed that it was due to a Wiimmfi server test and not the track itself (players have confirmed that it hasn't happened after the one incident).
     
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    Update

    Change: Addition of rule G.4.
    4. Trolling will always be allowed (unless otherwise stated by the council) on GCN Baby Park and Red Loop due to the ease of being overlapped on those tracks.

    Reason: As stated in the rule, it has been proven in Wars and Worldwides that players quite often have been a lap (or greater) behind on those tracks without intentionally trying to do so.

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    Change: Modification of Rule B.8.
    8. Certain custom tracks have been banned from league matches for the following reasons. If they are picked, the race will not count at the cost of a reset (see rule B.4. for more information) to the team that picked the banned track. The banned tracks are as follows:
    - Autumn Leavesway
    - Darkness Temple
    - Desert Castle Raceway
    - Dryland Hills
    - Haunted Woods
    - Luna City
    - Pipe Underworld
    - Punch City 2
    - Shining Town
    - Wario's Lair
    - N64 Wario Stadium
    - SNES Rainbow Road

    Reason: http://mkboards.com/forums/threads/why-certain-custom-tracks-are-banned-from-play.16762/#post-361054

    There will be a new post in the above thread and not the rules here, everytime a modification to rule B.8. is made. The ruleset will also be updated, but there won't be any posts on this thread regarding it.
     
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    3 tracks have been banned:

    - River Bridge : Outside of the bridge lacks a fall boundary, so if players get hit off the bridge, they'll lose over 20 seconds.
    - Rosalina's Snow World : The final ramp is not possible to make while shrunken by a shock and/or thundercloud on 100cc and is very hard on 150cc. The fact that it can be completely impossible is the reason for its ban.
    - Canyon Run : The ramp with the hot air balloon next to it is impossible to make while shrunken by a shock, thundercloud, and/or a mega mushroom.


    This is the final update for the week. Good luck in week 1 to everyone!
     
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    Change: Modificiation of Rule B.7.
    7. Regular tracks are not allowed to be selected. If a regular track is selected, the race will not count at the cost of a reset to the team that picked a regular track.

    Reason: The penalties for selecting a regular track and selecting a banned custom track didn't match, and therefore didn't make sense. Random glitch exists, so that's why it's like this now (and picking a banned CT has been like this).
     
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    Update

    - Desert Castle Raceway has been unbanned, as the new version does not have a star box in the middle of the path.
    - Shining Town has been unbanned since it's no longer in the main CTGP pack.
     
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    Update

    Change: Modification of General Rule 9.
    9. The rules may not be edited between Saturday at 14:00 to Sunday at 23:59 (Eastern Time Zone) during the season.

    Reason: Custom Track CSL matches are on Sunday, not Saturday. The CSL Staff should have the same amount of time to make rule edits that the Normal Track ruleset provides.

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    Change: Modification of Rule A.5.
    5. Registrations, transfers, or FC updates made after 23:59 (Eastern Time Zone) on Saturday will not be eligible for that weekend's match.

    Reason: Custom Track CSL matches are on Sunday, not Saturday. Teams and players in the CT Division should have the same amount of time to make registration updates as the players in the Normal Track Divisions.
     
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    - SNES Ghost Valley 3 has been banned since there are two set item boxes (both are stars) on the track. One being in the direct line and the other being easily accessed with the use of a mushroom. This will go into effect as of July 20th at 12:00am EDT.
     
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    Change: Modification of Rule B.5.
    5. Players may not use the following glitches:
    - Aquania
    - Blue Loop
    - Disco Fever
    - Subspace Factory (not necessarily a glitch, but we banned the big cannon shortcut due to fixed item boxes and it being a very unfair advantage)
    - Thunder City

    Reason: Addition of Aquania's glitch and Disco Fever's glitch.
     
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    Change: Modification of Rule B.5.
    5. Players may not use the following glitches:
    - Blue Loop
    - Disco Fever
    - Subspace Factory (not necessarily a glitch, but we banned the big cannon shortcut due to fixed item boxes and it being a very unfair advantage)
    - Thunder City

    Reason: Removal of Aquania's glitch because the glitch was patched (proof below).

     
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    Update

    2 tracks have been unbanned:

    - Pipe Underworld: As of the current CTGP update (v1.03.1020), there has been a vastly updated version of the track, where it has none of the issues from the previous version.

    - Rosalina's Snow World: The final ramp is actually possible to make while shrunken by a shock, thundercloud, and/or mega mushroom on both 150cc and 100cc.

     
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    Change: Modification of General Rule 3.

    3. All compensation and penalty values in the Match Rules are based on the 5vs5 point distribution. To get the compensation and penalties for other match sizes, go here: http://tinyurl.com/cslmultiplier.

    Reason: It's been awhile since a General Rule was edited, but when changing the default match size this also affects General Rule 3.

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    Change: Modification of Rule A.8.

    8. Clans must have at least 8 correctly registered players in order to be seeded.

    Reason: With the default match size changed to 5vs5, 8 players will now be required in order to be seeded.

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    Change: Modification of Rule B.1.

    1. The default match size is 5vs5. However, if both clans agree to a different match size, that is allowed.

    Reason: Uniformity, makes more sense if there's potential sponsors, has been the global standard outside of Japan for regular tracks, and the fact that a majority of clans in the CT division this season have claimed that they will be able to pull 5 players (hopefully they weren't bullshitting).

    *All penalties were changed to the 5vs5 values. Not going to list every rule that had the penalty valued changed; look through the ruleset and you'll see.
     
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    1 track has been banned:

    - Seaside Resort: At the end of the track, going to where the houses are there's a star box. This is accessible with at least one shroom.

     
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    Change: Modification of Rule B.5.

    5. Players may not use the following glitches:
    - Blue Loop
    - Desert Castle Raceway
    - Disco Fever
    - Subspace Factory (not necessarily a glitch, but we banned the big cannon shortcut due to fixed item boxes and it being a very unfair advantage)
    - Thunder City

    Reason: Addition of Desert Castle Raceway's glitch.
     
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    Update

    Change: Modification of Rule B.5.

    5. Players may not use the following glitches:
    - Blue Loop
    - Desert Castle Raceway
    - Disco Fever
    - Subspace Factory (not necessarily a glitch, but we banned the big cannon shortcut due to fixed item boxes and it being a very unfair advantage)
    - Thunder City

    Reason: Removal of Desert Castle Raceway's glitch due to patch:
     
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    2 tracks have been banned:

    - Icepeak Mountain: At the end of the ice section with the cataquacks, going to the left there's a star box. Afterwards, further ahead on the left there's a small path with houses that contains a shroom box.

    - Mushroom Peaks: After the mushroom sections on the left, going straight leads you to a grass section with a single item box that gives you a mega mushroom. This is accessible with at least one shroom; the staff believed that since Autumn Leavesway was banned due to a star box being available with one shroom that this track would fall under the same category.





     
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    1 track has been unbanned:

    - Mushroom Peaks:

    [4:40:02 PM] Robert: That mega is so far out of the way, the only time it's worth going for is if you have a TC and you pulled it from that set just beyond the easy route. It even puts you on a stupid line to continue racing.

    [4:41:37 PM] ♥KαγDee♥ ✿◠‿〜: the main thing was the mega box, everyone wanted to be consistent with the track bans

    so if we ban x, y must go too
    [4:42:30 PM] Robert: That's no good. You have to consider balance. If one track uses bouncy mushrooms in a stupid manner, does that mean every track with bouncy mushrooms gets banned for consistency?

    [4:44:07 PM] Robert: And how many times have you seen Peak's fixed items used constructively by comparison to something like SNES Rainbow Road?

    [9/27/2015 3:29:58 PM] Hedgehog: I just think that if your team has shock and you have a shroom you can simply just go wide to get it and dodge
    [9/27/2015 3:30:53 PM] ~Dα♦KαγDee♥~ ✿◠‿〜: yeah...
    [9/27/2015 3:30:59 PM] Hedgehog: But then again the item set is before the mushroom section and usually when someone gets a shroom they'd go for the right side instead
    [9/27/2015 3:31:03 PM] Hedgehog: To be ahead
    [9/27/2015 3:31:48 PM] ~Dα♦KαγDee♥~ ✿◠‿〜: Exactly.

    [4:32:01 PM] Robert: Which would also involve shocking everyone after the massive shroom section, the most devastating place to use it vs a not so devastating place.
    [4:32:35 PM] Robert: Trust me, I thought that mega box through from a clan war perspective.
    [4:32:43 PM] Robert: It even moves around to make it more awkward to get :p

    [9/27/2015 3:34:44 PM] ~Dα♦KαγDee♥~ ✿◠‿〜: [4:34:28 PM] Robert: If it makes everyone feel better, the boxes after the left split that you could, in theory, pull a shroom from with RNG and chain it to the mega, I could move so they're round the bend and therefore even less practical to do that.
    [9/27/2015 3:35:18 PM] ~Dα♦KαγDee♥~ ✿◠‿〜: [4:35:03 PM] Robert: While still making it so the people who take the hard route can't get them.
    [4:35:11 PM] Robert: I just worry that's place the box sets too close to each other.
     
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    1 track has been unbanned:

    - Luna City: It has been found out that the in-game frame lag is minimal to nonexistant in 10 player rooms (standard 5v5 CT war) or less.
     
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    Update

    Change: Addition of Section D. ~ CTGP Revolution Channel Settings with everything below it moving down.

    D. CTGP Revolution Channel Settings

    1. For hosts of the room, they must have the following settings - Track Availability = Custom Tracks or All Tracks, Specific Engine Class = Normal, Race Count = 4, Thundercloud Autofire = Normal, Thundercloud Effect = Normal, Room Encryption = ON or OFF (ON stops Item Spy programs), Available Vehicles = All Vehicles, Host Always Wins Vote = OFF.
    2. If any of the above rules are broken, the player's clan will receive a penalty of 150 points or have their points removed for the match (the greater of the two).

    Reason: Due to the recent CTGP channel update, this rule change was necessary to come out right away, regardless of what General Rule 6 says.

    Something to note: Speedometer, Draggable Blue Shells, and Mii Heads on Minimap are not stated because everyone playing in the CT Division have access to them. We've allowed Speedometer and Draggable Blue Shells for seasons 4 and 5 (and we're going to keep allowing them). Based on this precedent, we are also going to be allowing Mii Heads on Minimap in the CT Division.
     
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    - Desert Castle Raceway:

     
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    Change: Modification of the entirety of Section D. ~ CTGP Revolution Channel Settings.

    D. CTGP Revolution Channel Settings

    1. For hosts of the room, they must have the following settings - Track Availability = Custom Tracks or All Tracks, Specific Engine Class = Normal, Race Count = 4, Thundercloud Autofire = Normal, Thundercloud Effect = Normal, Room Encryption = ON or OFF (ON stops Item Spy programs), Available Vehicles = All Vehicles, Host Always Wins Vote = OFF.
    2. If any of the rules above are broken, the host's clan will receive a penalty based on how severely the game modification may have affected the match.
    2a. If a host is caught with Thundercloud Autofire set to "OFF", Thundercloud Effect set to "Mega", or Host Always Wins Vote set to "ON", their clan will receive a penalty of 150 points.
    2b. If a host is caught with Track Availability set to "Nintendo Tracks" instead of "Custom Tracks" or "All Tracks", or if Vehicle Availability is set to anything but "All Vehicles", they must close the room at the cost of one of their clan's resets (see rule B.4. for more information). If there is proof that the host refused to reset, their clan will receive a penalty of 150 points.
    2c. If a host is caught with Specific Engine Class set to anything but "Normal", they will receive a penalty of 50 points per GP (150 points total if left on for the entire match) until the setting is changed. If any race of that GP is played with those settings, the whole GP will be penalized.
    2d. If a host is caught with Race Count set to above 4, they must close the room at any point before race 5 at the cost of one of their clan's resets (see rule B.4. for more information). If there is proof that the host refused to reset before race 5, their clan will receive a penalty of 30 points for each additional race played (up to 240 points in total penalties if 8 additional races are played).
    2e. If a host is caught with Race Count set to below 4, it will cost their clan a reset each time a GP ends without 4 races being completed (see rule B.4. for more information).

    Reason: To go along with the changes to Section D. in the normal track ruleset.

    ^This still holds true by the way.
     
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    1 track has been unbanned:

    - Autumn Leavesway: The star box which caused this track to be banned has been removed in the latest CTGP update.
     
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    11 tracks have been unbanned:

    - Canyon Run
    - Desert Castle Raceway
    - Dryland Hills
    - Haunted Woods
    - Icepeak Mountain
    - Lost Fortress
    - Mushroom Peaks
    - Wario's Lair
    - N64 Wario Stadium
    - Seaside Resort
    - SNES Ghost Valley 3


    There's been an overhaul in the ban list, as we, the council, have decided to take a different approach in track bans. For tracks that had a predetermined item box, almost all of the tracks had them in either a wide line that would waste time or in line but would need an item such as a shroom to acquire it (the only exception to this is SNES Rainbow Road, where the item boxes are definitely in line and easy to obtain no matter what). For tracks that a section was impossible to do when shrunk, either the track had the respawn ahead of the area or it was actually possible to do the area (such as Mushroom Peaks in 100cc). Punch City 2, River Bridge, Spike Desert, and SNES Rainbow Road will remain banned for their respected reasons.
     
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    Major overhaul for season 6. Be sure to read the new ruleset carefully!

    Good luck to all teams this season~
     
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